Wednesday, June 24, 2009

Senator John Kerry schools Joe Scarborough on Iran and Politics (Video)



You got that joe?

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Ginny in CO · 822 weeks ago

Thanks for posting this. Kerry is far better than too many people understand. The degree to which the GOP/RW media memes about him were accepted by Dems still makes me furious..
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I totally agree. 2004 was an impossible year for a Democrat and John Kerry made it close - partially through 3 near flawless debates. If you remember, the panels discussing both conventions and the debates on all the cable stations did not even pretend to be balance. Even MSNBC often had only Ronald Reagan JR, an independent speaking in a sea of Republicans. In that entire campaign, when he was speaking as much as 12 to 16 hours a day, there were at most 3 things that could be considered gaffes. Fewer than any of the 2008 candidates. (Far fewer than HRC.)

I think the reason Democrats accepted the RW memes was that prominent Democrats, including Begala and Carville, who in 2004 did very little to help Senator Kerry get his messages or history across on their TV shows preferring just to make snarky attacks on Bush, turned on Kerry after the election - likely because he was a potential threat to HRC.

Maybe they thought 2004 impossible and didn't want to strengthen someone from the more liberal side of the party. However, Kerry's debates and vision made the race very close. What if he would have had more support from these prominent Democratic partisans. What if they repeated Kennedy's comments on the precursor bill to SCHIP that he and Kerry wrote based on a MA law - they both thought SCHIP important in 2008, when HRC listed it as her top accomplishment. Parts of Kerry/Kennedy remained in SCHIP as well as that bill being the starting point. HRC's main role was persuading Bill Clinton to include funding in the budget. If it was an important accomplishment to have helped Kennedy on this in 2008 - it was in 2004 too. It was on Kerry's web site - so they should known. What of how Kerry linked creating alternative fuels to a better transformational economy, cleaner air, cleaner water, better health and enhanced national security as well as global warming. On this issue and others, HRC and other Democrats liberally used his arguments in 2008.
I wish they'd take Scarborough off Morning Joe..
We all complained about Pat Buchanan until they got him off there.

Now, it's time for Joe to go......;}
Many of us have just watching
STOPPED watching.....haha

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